tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-617426134849640048.post4224281641010076793..comments2023-11-03T07:36:08.643-04:00Comments on The View From Here: chronicles of the generational divide, vol.iUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-617426134849640048.post-19371271785680060632008-07-17T12:50:00.000-04:002008-07-17T12:50:00.000-04:00touché touché; i really don't hear that message th...touché touché; i really don't hear that message that much except for church or Dr. Dyson (and i love Dyson); but the Jesses' and Sharptons' not so much (i.e. i think Sharpton's niche tends to be racial profiling and i'm not knockin it)-- let's not forget his Father's Day speech was at a black church and his other speech was for the NAACP. And if you're talking about only the "well-to-do" shit -- some of them ain't been fathers to their kids either; i think alot of you have mixed feelings about the O and his "agenda" and that's fine but its clouding your judgment -- that's for you Rum Punch! <BR/><BR/>@Rum: one reason i tend to disagree with some people's outlook of "O" is that it's kind of hard to be dismissive or just knock 'em when he wrote a book about all this shit (i.e his upbringing, family, outlook) -- it's not like he's outside lookin' in a fishbowl dammnit it he was the bowl! can a brotha get a lil' creditBellinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07059515033669847759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-617426134849640048.post-137130933384747812008-07-17T11:05:00.000-04:002008-07-17T11:05:00.000-04:00I just came in here to say Jesse jackson jr. denie...I just came in here to say Jesse jackson jr. denied his daddy like Peter denied Jesus. He was like I don't know that [insert your favorite word here]! Anyway. I'm not trying to get in Jesse's head (because that would be scary), but like Zackory, I understand. What Obama said was not new or original. It's been said by everybody's favorite crazy uncle Cosby, Black conservatives, intellectuals, journalists, pastors, and at the Jenkins' family cookout. Obama didn't say these things at the beginning of his campaign. So the question is, why is he starting now? And who is this message really for? I don't think it's for <I>us</I>. Not the us who need to hear it anyway. So what exactly are we giving Obama kudos for? For stating the obvious? For having the audacity to call Black folk out on the bullshit during the campaign season? For telling it like it t-i-s? To me he took the easy route. It was something us talented tenth folks could nod our heads to and be like, "preach..." and white folks could be like, "see even <I>he</I> thinks black people need to get their act together."Rum Punchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05675412616844332162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-617426134849640048.post-4496872581394752802008-07-17T10:22:00.000-04:002008-07-17T10:22:00.000-04:00@zack: maybe i'm missing something, but there's no...@zack: maybe i'm missing something, but there's no better time than the present; and what isn't more appropos than Father's Day-- who cares if white folks are receptive to the message-- it doesn't undermine the truth in the message and it shouldn't; if you adopt the attitude of not saying nothing it feeds into the normalcy/acquiesence of the status quo-- the status quo ain't workingBellinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07059515033669847759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-617426134849640048.post-19085297368742180792008-07-16T23:43:00.000-04:002008-07-16T23:43:00.000-04:00I understand where she and a lot of older African ...I understand where she and a lot of older African American thinkers are coming from. What Jesse said was wrong, but in some ways, understandable. Obama is doing a lot of tough talk and that talk is exactly what white moderate voters want to hear. Is it true, yes. Do most people guilty of being deadbeats want to hear it now, in this recession, no.Your Favorite Teacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12023560940424622961noreply@blogger.com